1 00:00:08,070 --> 00:00:05,190 good afternoon everybody and welcome to 2 00:00:09,750 --> 00:00:08,080 the spacex 2 pre-launch news conference 3 00:00:11,749 --> 00:00:09,760 we're here live at kennedy space center 4 00:00:13,589 --> 00:00:11,759 in florida everything is on track for 5 00:00:15,589 --> 00:00:13,599 the launch of the falcon 9 rocket with 6 00:00:18,230 --> 00:00:15,599 its dragon capsule tomorrow morning at 7 00:00:20,630 --> 00:00:18,240 10 10 a.m eastern standard time and 8 00:00:22,470 --> 00:00:20,640 we're here today to talk about the 9 00:00:24,310 --> 00:00:22,480 preparations for the mission and the 10 00:00:27,670 --> 00:00:24,320 mission itself we're happy to be joined 11 00:00:29,429 --> 00:00:27,680 today by mr mike safradini the nasa 12 00:00:32,150 --> 00:00:29,439 international space station program 13 00:00:37,350 --> 00:00:34,310 and by gwen shotwell the president of 14 00:00:42,630 --> 00:00:40,229 and joel tambiolo launch weather officer 15 00:00:44,389 --> 00:00:42,640 from the 45th weather squadron at cape 16 00:00:46,389 --> 00:00:44,399 canaveral air force station here in 17 00:00:48,630 --> 00:00:46,399 florida and we'll start off with opening 18 00:00:50,069 --> 00:00:48,640 comments mr saffordini well good 19 00:00:51,670 --> 00:00:50,079 afternoon it's always good to be in 20 00:00:53,189 --> 00:00:51,680 florida because it means we're uh we're 21 00:00:55,270 --> 00:00:53,199 about to launch another vehicle to the 22 00:00:56,869 --> 00:00:55,280 international space station so uh we're 23 00:00:58,950 --> 00:00:56,879 we're happy to be here quite a bit of 24 00:01:00,069 --> 00:00:58,960 work has been done to to get to this 25 00:01:04,390 --> 00:01:00,079 point 26 00:01:07,590 --> 00:01:04,400 both by the spacex team and by the iss 27 00:01:09,350 --> 00:01:07,600 team on the ground and the crew on orbit 28 00:01:11,429 --> 00:01:09,360 we've spent quite a bit of time over the 29 00:01:13,910 --> 00:01:11,439 last few weeks reconfiguring the station 30 00:01:15,910 --> 00:01:13,920 to be ready for uh for the birthing of 31 00:01:18,870 --> 00:01:15,920 the dragon spacecraft 32 00:01:20,390 --> 00:01:18,880 we did a major software upgrade on board 33 00:01:23,350 --> 00:01:20,400 which probably followed along because 34 00:01:24,230 --> 00:01:23,360 you heard about a com loss which was a 35 00:01:27,190 --> 00:01:24,240 which 36 00:01:30,870 --> 00:01:27,200 was the result of a momentary hiccup in 37 00:01:33,429 --> 00:01:30,880 our process of upgrading our software 38 00:01:35,510 --> 00:01:33,439 but was really never a big concern it's 39 00:01:37,749 --> 00:01:35,520 just whenever you you can't communicate 40 00:01:39,109 --> 00:01:37,759 with the crew of course we become 41 00:01:41,350 --> 00:01:39,119 a little concerned and want to get back 42 00:01:43,109 --> 00:01:41,360 to that configuration as soon as we can 43 00:01:45,350 --> 00:01:43,119 but we've overcome that over a million 44 00:01:46,950 --> 00:01:45,360 lines of code were upgraded and 45 00:01:50,069 --> 00:01:46,960 including the software for the arm 46 00:01:52,950 --> 00:01:50,079 that's going to capture the dragon 47 00:01:55,109 --> 00:01:52,960 so the that's been done the rws system 48 00:01:57,350 --> 00:01:55,119 itself is up and configured it's been 49 00:02:00,389 --> 00:01:57,360 checked out the arm is in position in 50 00:02:02,389 --> 00:02:00,399 its grapple position for when dragon 51 00:02:04,149 --> 00:02:02,399 approaches so that's ready to go 52 00:02:05,910 --> 00:02:04,159 and the and the systems to communicate 53 00:02:06,870 --> 00:02:05,920 with the dragon have been checked out 54 00:02:10,469 --> 00:02:06,880 and 55 00:02:13,350 --> 00:02:10,479 for birthing so on board we're ready to 56 00:02:15,510 --> 00:02:13,360 go uh for the launch of of the dragon 57 00:02:17,670 --> 00:02:15,520 and are looking forward to it uh this 58 00:02:19,430 --> 00:02:17,680 crew as you know that's uh gonna do the 59 00:02:21,990 --> 00:02:19,440 work of capturing some of this crew will 60 00:02:24,470 --> 00:02:22,000 depart uh halfway through the birth 61 00:02:26,070 --> 00:02:24,480 stage of the dragon and so that'll be 62 00:02:27,589 --> 00:02:26,080 unique for us the first time we've done 63 00:02:29,430 --> 00:02:27,599 that 64 00:02:30,869 --> 00:02:29,440 it's not particularly challenging event 65 00:02:32,710 --> 00:02:30,879 other than the analysis you have to do 66 00:02:34,550 --> 00:02:32,720 when you have another spacecraft 67 00:02:36,390 --> 00:02:34,560 attached to the station and 68 00:02:38,229 --> 00:02:36,400 and you have a soyuz depart but that's 69 00:02:41,589 --> 00:02:38,239 perfectly within our 70 00:02:43,750 --> 00:02:41,599 experience base but it'll be uh 71 00:02:45,830 --> 00:02:43,760 unique that we bring dragon up with six 72 00:02:48,150 --> 00:02:45,840 crew and depart with three 73 00:02:49,830 --> 00:02:48,160 in addition on this flight uh which we 74 00:02:51,509 --> 00:02:49,840 have talked about in the previous 75 00:02:53,589 --> 00:02:51,519 science briefing 76 00:02:55,509 --> 00:02:53,599 we have research that's going to come up 77 00:02:57,350 --> 00:02:55,519 on dragon we're going to going to do the 78 00:02:59,030 --> 00:02:57,360 research on board the station it's going 79 00:03:00,869 --> 00:02:59,040 to take us about 22 days to do this 80 00:03:02,550 --> 00:03:00,879 materials research and then we're going 81 00:03:04,630 --> 00:03:02,560 to put it back in the dragon and return 82 00:03:05,509 --> 00:03:04,640 it home so this becomes a driver for how 83 00:03:07,670 --> 00:03:05,519 long 84 00:03:10,309 --> 00:03:07,680 we remained attached with the dragon 85 00:03:12,630 --> 00:03:10,319 spacecraft for this particular mission 86 00:03:15,110 --> 00:03:12,640 so what that shows you is this unique 87 00:03:17,509 --> 00:03:15,120 vehicle is has become a very integral 88 00:03:19,270 --> 00:03:17,519 part of how we operate and utilize the 89 00:03:21,190 --> 00:03:19,280 international space station 90 00:03:22,149 --> 00:03:21,200 and and so we're looking forward to this 91 00:03:24,229 --> 00:03:22,159 one 92 00:03:25,509 --> 00:03:24,239 coming up here soon so with that i'll 93 00:03:27,830 --> 00:03:25,519 hand it over to gwen and she can tell 94 00:03:29,190 --> 00:03:27,840 you all about dragon's readiness 95 00:03:31,030 --> 00:03:29,200 thanks mike 96 00:03:32,710 --> 00:03:31,040 so i can't 97 00:03:34,309 --> 00:03:32,720 tell you how excited i am to be back 98 00:03:35,430 --> 00:03:34,319 here in florida because as mike said 99 00:03:37,750 --> 00:03:35,440 that means we're launching we're a 100 00:03:39,830 --> 00:03:37,760 launch company we love to launch 101 00:03:42,789 --> 00:03:39,840 very excited to be 102 00:03:44,470 --> 00:03:42,799 ready and prepared to fly the second 103 00:03:46,470 --> 00:03:44,480 operational mission to the international 104 00:03:48,550 --> 00:03:46,480 space station it is the third with the 105 00:03:49,910 --> 00:03:48,560 first being a demo flight 106 00:03:52,070 --> 00:03:49,920 i want to give you a little bit more 107 00:03:54,309 --> 00:03:52,080 detail than currently in your press 108 00:03:56,550 --> 00:03:54,319 kit on the timeline 109 00:03:57,670 --> 00:03:56,560 we have begun late load operations they 110 00:04:00,309 --> 00:03:57,680 started at 111 00:04:03,270 --> 00:04:00,319 24 hours prior to liftoff and we 112 00:04:05,589 --> 00:04:03,280 continue to do so until the last late 113 00:04:07,750 --> 00:04:05,599 load of cargo into dragon 114 00:04:08,869 --> 00:04:07,760 is at l minus eight hours launch minus 115 00:04:10,470 --> 00:04:08,879 eight hours 116 00:04:12,229 --> 00:04:10,480 we plan to lift off tomorrow morning at 117 00:04:14,710 --> 00:04:12,239 10 10 local 118 00:04:15,910 --> 00:04:14,720 and have a three-minute first stage 119 00:04:17,670 --> 00:04:15,920 flight 120 00:04:19,349 --> 00:04:17,680 three minutes and 52 seconds into the 121 00:04:24,150 --> 00:04:19,359 flight you should hopefully see on the 122 00:04:26,710 --> 00:04:24,160 web nose cone jettison occur um and uh 123 00:04:28,629 --> 00:04:26,720 then the second stage uh 124 00:04:30,230 --> 00:04:28,639 that we should have states excuse me 125 00:04:31,830 --> 00:04:30,240 three minutes after liftoff we'll have 126 00:04:34,710 --> 00:04:31,840 first stage uh 127 00:04:36,710 --> 00:04:34,720 flight uh ignite the second stage three 128 00:04:38,950 --> 00:04:36,720 minutes and 52 seconds into uh the 129 00:04:41,030 --> 00:04:38,960 flight dragon nose cone will jettison 130 00:04:43,590 --> 00:04:41,040 nine minutes and 11 seconds after 131 00:04:45,030 --> 00:04:43,600 liftoff we will have second stage engine 132 00:04:48,150 --> 00:04:45,040 cut off 133 00:04:50,870 --> 00:04:48,160 9 minutes and 46 seconds after liftoff 134 00:04:53,590 --> 00:04:50,880 we should see dragon separate 135 00:04:55,510 --> 00:04:53,600 about 11 minutes and 45 seconds into the 136 00:04:58,310 --> 00:04:55,520 into the flight dragon solar array 137 00:05:01,430 --> 00:04:58,320 should deploy which is really the uh 138 00:05:03,749 --> 00:05:01,440 the kickoff of the uh on orbit mission 139 00:05:05,110 --> 00:05:03,759 about two and a half hours into that uh 140 00:05:07,029 --> 00:05:05,120 into the flight 141 00:05:09,189 --> 00:05:07,039 we'll start doing the first burn of 142 00:05:11,990 --> 00:05:09,199 dragon as well as opening the gnc bay 143 00:05:14,469 --> 00:05:12,000 door which allows the grapple fixture 144 00:05:15,990 --> 00:05:14,479 to be exposed and demonstrates a 145 00:05:18,390 --> 00:05:16,000 critical readiness 146 00:05:20,310 --> 00:05:18,400 piece for us to approach and then birth 147 00:05:21,990 --> 00:05:20,320 with the international space station 148 00:05:23,909 --> 00:05:22,000 we'll continue to do a series of burns 149 00:05:26,230 --> 00:05:23,919 for the next 18 hours 150 00:05:28,710 --> 00:05:26,240 and this mission is a little bit unique 151 00:05:30,629 --> 00:05:28,720 in that the phasing between dragon 152 00:05:33,189 --> 00:05:30,639 and the iss is such that we get there in 153 00:05:35,590 --> 00:05:33,199 less than 24 hours so this is a very 154 00:05:39,110 --> 00:05:35,600 quick launch to birth mission for us and 155 00:05:40,870 --> 00:05:39,120 we're quite excited about that um 156 00:05:43,430 --> 00:05:40,880 two days after liftoff the astronauts 157 00:05:45,590 --> 00:05:43,440 should open the dragon hatch and begin 158 00:05:48,230 --> 00:05:45,600 unloading the cargo executing the 159 00:05:52,150 --> 00:05:48,240 science uh reloading the dragon capsule 160 00:05:55,430 --> 00:05:52,160 for a return home on the 25th of march 161 00:05:58,150 --> 00:05:55,440 orbital insertion targeted 200 by 325 162 00:06:00,550 --> 00:05:58,160 kilometers uh in case we have an engine 163 00:06:02,870 --> 00:06:00,560 anomaly this time we can drop off dragon 164 00:06:06,230 --> 00:06:02,880 in as low as 200 by 200 165 00:06:08,070 --> 00:06:06,240 so that should be nominal as well 166 00:06:10,469 --> 00:06:08,080 and we're carrying up by the way you 167 00:06:13,350 --> 00:06:10,479 might see difference in numbers between 168 00:06:16,230 --> 00:06:13,360 nasa and other sources on the cargo we 169 00:06:18,070 --> 00:06:16,240 carry cargo for nasa plus all their 170 00:06:19,350 --> 00:06:18,080 support equipment and their packing so 171 00:06:21,029 --> 00:06:19,360 that's why there'd be difference in the 172 00:06:23,270 --> 00:06:21,039 numbers that you see 173 00:06:28,150 --> 00:06:23,280 but we are carrying up about 27 174 00:06:30,029 --> 00:06:28,160 2 700 pounds of stuff for nasa uh that 175 00:06:33,749 --> 00:06:30,039 pressurized cargo plus its packing is 176 00:06:35,430 --> 00:06:33,759 677 kilos or 1493 pounds the 177 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:35,440 unpressurized cargo we're carrying up 178 00:06:39,990 --> 00:06:37,440 grapple bars for the first time they go 179 00:06:42,950 --> 00:06:40,000 up in the trunk which is that looks like 180 00:06:44,469 --> 00:06:42,960 an inner stage that sits below dragon 181 00:06:46,950 --> 00:06:44,479 this the grapple bars is it's an 182 00:06:50,870 --> 00:06:46,960 interesting uh not only is it a first 183 00:06:53,029 --> 00:06:50,880 flight of external unpressurized cargo 184 00:06:54,309 --> 00:06:53,039 spacex actually contributed to the cargo 185 00:06:56,390 --> 00:06:54,319 pack itself 186 00:06:58,950 --> 00:06:56,400 the grapple bars are provided to us by 187 00:07:01,430 --> 00:06:58,960 nasa built by one of their contractors 188 00:07:03,909 --> 00:07:01,440 we built the support equipment to attach 189 00:07:05,510 --> 00:07:03,919 it into the spacex trunk in addition 190 00:07:08,550 --> 00:07:05,520 there's two grapple bars you hear bars 191 00:07:11,430 --> 00:07:08,560 so there's two of them and spacex 192 00:07:13,430 --> 00:07:11,440 developed and tested the fixture the 193 00:07:15,270 --> 00:07:13,440 structure that keeps those two together 194 00:07:17,430 --> 00:07:15,280 so we'll have hardware on station in 195 00:07:21,029 --> 00:07:17,440 addition to dragon after we 196 00:07:23,270 --> 00:07:21,039 removed the grapple bars 197 00:07:25,589 --> 00:07:23,280 that's probably all i have to say as far 198 00:07:26,790 --> 00:07:25,599 as mission overview at this time 199 00:07:27,830 --> 00:07:26,800 and then i look forward to your 200 00:07:29,110 --> 00:07:27,840 questions 201 00:07:31,350 --> 00:07:29,120 thanks 202 00:07:33,430 --> 00:07:31,360 okay thank you gwen joel 203 00:07:35,430 --> 00:07:33,440 good afternoon everyone 204 00:07:37,749 --> 00:07:35,440 right now we are looking at very 205 00:07:39,830 --> 00:07:37,759 favorable conditions tomorrow morning 206 00:07:41,189 --> 00:07:39,840 for for the liftoff there are a couple 207 00:07:42,309 --> 00:07:41,199 minor issues that we're going to be 208 00:07:44,070 --> 00:07:42,319 tracking 209 00:07:45,830 --> 00:07:44,080 but right now they do appear to be very 210 00:07:47,749 --> 00:07:45,840 minor issues if i could get the 211 00:07:49,029 --> 00:07:47,759 satellite picture up on the monitor just 212 00:07:51,110 --> 00:07:49,039 kind of illustrate what we're going to 213 00:07:53,029 --> 00:07:51,120 be watching we had a frontal boundary 214 00:07:55,350 --> 00:07:53,039 move through central florida a couple 215 00:07:56,950 --> 00:07:55,360 days ago you can see that line of clouds 216 00:07:59,110 --> 00:07:56,960 over extreme south florida that's where 217 00:08:01,430 --> 00:07:59,120 that frontal boundary is right now and 218 00:08:03,110 --> 00:08:01,440 you can see the large area of clouds 219 00:08:04,550 --> 00:08:03,120 associated with it 220 00:08:06,230 --> 00:08:04,560 the other thing we're going to be 221 00:08:08,230 --> 00:08:06,240 tracking right now it's up in the 222 00:08:10,309 --> 00:08:08,240 northern plains of the u.s it's an upper 223 00:08:12,070 --> 00:08:10,319 level piece of energy that's going to be 224 00:08:15,189 --> 00:08:12,080 dropping south and southeast over the 225 00:08:17,270 --> 00:08:15,199 gulf of mexico over the next 24 hours 226 00:08:19,909 --> 00:08:17,280 and when this system does 227 00:08:21,589 --> 00:08:19,919 move over the gulf of mexico it could 228 00:08:23,430 --> 00:08:21,599 bring in a little bit of cloud cover 229 00:08:25,270 --> 00:08:23,440 we're not anticipating any rain or 230 00:08:27,270 --> 00:08:25,280 anything of that nature 231 00:08:29,350 --> 00:08:27,280 we there will be a little bit of cloud 232 00:08:30,790 --> 00:08:29,360 cover associated with this feature and 233 00:08:32,790 --> 00:08:30,800 we're going to be tracking this cloud 234 00:08:34,550 --> 00:08:32,800 cover to see if it would violate any of 235 00:08:35,670 --> 00:08:34,560 our natural and trigger lightning 236 00:08:37,750 --> 00:08:35,680 constraints 237 00:08:39,909 --> 00:08:37,760 now get a little more specific if this 238 00:08:41,909 --> 00:08:39,919 cloud cover right now we're looking at 239 00:08:44,949 --> 00:08:41,919 one of our rules named the thick cloud 240 00:08:47,110 --> 00:08:44,959 rule and quickly that cloud rules states 241 00:08:49,590 --> 00:08:47,120 that if clouds that are overhead it's a 242 00:08:52,389 --> 00:08:49,600 flight through rule if these clouds are 243 00:08:54,790 --> 00:08:52,399 4 500 feet thick or greater and any 244 00:08:56,230 --> 00:08:54,800 portion of those clouds are between 245 00:08:57,829 --> 00:08:56,240 where the freezing level is in the 246 00:08:59,910 --> 00:08:57,839 atmosphere and where the minus 20 247 00:09:02,230 --> 00:08:59,920 degrees celsius level is in the 248 00:09:03,190 --> 00:09:02,240 atmosphere now that would be a violation 249 00:09:04,949 --> 00:09:03,200 of our 250 00:09:07,430 --> 00:09:04,959 thick cloud rule now what we're 251 00:09:09,990 --> 00:09:07,440 forecasting tomorrow for the freezing 252 00:09:12,389 --> 00:09:10,000 level is around 10 000 feet 253 00:09:15,590 --> 00:09:12,399 and the 20 minus 20 degrees celsius 254 00:09:17,350 --> 00:09:15,600 level will be around 25 000 feet so what 255 00:09:18,710 --> 00:09:17,360 we're going to be looking for 256 00:09:21,430 --> 00:09:18,720 number one is they're going to be clouds 257 00:09:23,269 --> 00:09:21,440 over the flight path and number two 258 00:09:25,829 --> 00:09:23,279 will these clouds any portion of these 259 00:09:28,389 --> 00:09:25,839 clouds be between the 10 000 feet or 260 00:09:29,829 --> 00:09:28,399 freezing level and that minus 20 degrees 261 00:09:32,550 --> 00:09:29,839 celsius level which is going to be 262 00:09:34,070 --> 00:09:32,560 around 25 000 feet tomorrow if portion 263 00:09:35,030 --> 00:09:34,080 of those clouds are between those two 264 00:09:37,430 --> 00:09:35,040 levels 265 00:09:39,430 --> 00:09:37,440 and that cloud is 4500 feet thick that 266 00:09:41,430 --> 00:09:39,440 would be a violation now again it's a 267 00:09:43,829 --> 00:09:41,440 very very minor concern but that would 268 00:09:45,910 --> 00:09:43,839 be the only cloud-related issue that 269 00:09:47,829 --> 00:09:45,920 we'll we'll be monitoring but again 270 00:09:50,389 --> 00:09:47,839 right now we're only if i can go to the 271 00:09:52,230 --> 00:09:50,399 forecast charts for the launch 272 00:09:54,630 --> 00:09:52,240 basically we're going to be looking at 273 00:09:57,110 --> 00:09:54,640 two cloud decks the first one is a 274 00:09:58,630 --> 00:09:57,120 scattered deck at 4 000 feet and it's 275 00:10:00,630 --> 00:09:58,640 that second deck 276 00:10:03,590 --> 00:10:00,640 the bkn is a broken 277 00:10:05,590 --> 00:10:03,600 layer of clouds that bases around 14 000 278 00:10:08,870 --> 00:10:05,600 feet now it would be that layer of 279 00:10:11,269 --> 00:10:08,880 clouds that if it's over the pad greater 280 00:10:13,030 --> 00:10:11,279 than 4500 feet thick and between those 281 00:10:14,870 --> 00:10:13,040 two levels i mentioned earlier that 282 00:10:16,790 --> 00:10:14,880 would be a violation but again it's very 283 00:10:18,630 --> 00:10:16,800 very minor concern we're going to have 284 00:10:20,150 --> 00:10:18,640 good visibility tomorrow 285 00:10:21,670 --> 00:10:20,160 it's going to be breezy the winds will 286 00:10:24,470 --> 00:10:21,680 be out of the northwest over the next 287 00:10:26,790 --> 00:10:24,480 few days and it will be breezy into the 288 00:10:29,350 --> 00:10:26,800 low to mid teens tomorrow morning 289 00:10:31,829 --> 00:10:29,360 possibly up to 20 knots but well below 290 00:10:33,269 --> 00:10:31,839 the liftoff constraint of 30 knots so 291 00:10:36,389 --> 00:10:33,279 although it will be breezy we're not 292 00:10:38,230 --> 00:10:36,399 anticipating the liftoff winds to be 293 00:10:39,910 --> 00:10:38,240 an extreme concern 294 00:10:41,990 --> 00:10:39,920 right now i'm not expecting any weather 295 00:10:44,150 --> 00:10:42,000 per se as far as rain or thunderstorms 296 00:10:46,069 --> 00:10:44,160 so we're good there and the temperature 297 00:10:47,509 --> 00:10:46,079 at left off it will be cooler florida 298 00:10:52,630 --> 00:10:47,519 standards over the next few days it's 299 00:10:55,430 --> 00:10:54,069 hate to say that for folks up in the 300 00:10:57,910 --> 00:10:55,440 north right now but it's only going to 301 00:10:59,829 --> 00:10:57,920 be 60 degrees tomorrow morning 302 00:11:01,670 --> 00:10:59,839 at the beginning of the launch window 303 00:11:03,750 --> 00:11:01,680 and there's only a 20 percent chance of 304 00:11:06,389 --> 00:11:03,760 a violation or 80 percent chance of good 305 00:11:08,630 --> 00:11:06,399 weather for to uh tomorrow's liftoff 306 00:11:10,630 --> 00:11:08,640 with a thick cloud rule and the liftoff 307 00:11:11,750 --> 00:11:10,640 winds the only two areas of minor 308 00:11:14,150 --> 00:11:11,760 concern 309 00:11:16,550 --> 00:11:14,160 if we were to go into the 24 hour delay 310 00:11:18,230 --> 00:11:16,560 it's virtually the same forecast still 311 00:11:20,310 --> 00:11:18,240 going to be looking at northwest winds 312 00:11:22,630 --> 00:11:20,320 we still may have that cloud cover that 313 00:11:24,310 --> 00:11:22,640 i mentioned earlier over over the state 314 00:11:25,990 --> 00:11:24,320 and it would be the same thick cloud 315 00:11:28,389 --> 00:11:26,000 rule and liftoff winds that would be the 316 00:11:31,750 --> 00:11:28,399 minor concerns and still only a 20 317 00:11:34,230 --> 00:11:31,760 percent of 20 chance of a violation on a 318 00:11:36,310 --> 00:11:34,240 24-hour delay if that were to be needed 319 00:11:37,990 --> 00:11:36,320 but again overall weather looks good 320 00:11:39,590 --> 00:11:38,000 just a couple minor issues that we'll be 321 00:11:41,590 --> 00:11:39,600 tracking thank you 322 00:11:43,590 --> 00:11:41,600 all right joel thank you and we're ready 323 00:11:45,350 --> 00:11:43,600 to open it up for questions in addition 324 00:11:47,190 --> 00:11:45,360 to our members of the news media we're 325 00:11:49,670 --> 00:11:47,200 happy today to be joined by members of 326 00:11:52,069 --> 00:11:49,680 the nasa social who are in the room here 327 00:11:54,470 --> 00:11:52,079 at kennedy and ready to ask questions so 328 00:11:56,150 --> 00:11:54,480 we'll take as many questions as we can 329 00:11:58,470 --> 00:11:56,160 time permitting and please make sure to 330 00:11:59,990 --> 00:11:58,480 wait for the microphone state your name 331 00:12:01,590 --> 00:12:00,000 your affiliation and to whom you're 332 00:12:03,110 --> 00:12:01,600 addressing your question and we'll start 333 00:12:05,430 --> 00:12:03,120 with marcia dunn 334 00:12:06,710 --> 00:12:05,440 marcia and associated press um from his 335 00:12:08,470 --> 00:12:06,720 shot well i'm just wondering looking 336 00:12:10,389 --> 00:12:08,480 ahead when's the next 337 00:12:12,069 --> 00:12:10,399 dragon launch to the space station and 338 00:12:13,509 --> 00:12:12,079 for mike 339 00:12:15,190 --> 00:12:13,519 could you update on the schedule for 340 00:12:16,389 --> 00:12:15,200 orbital sciences and 341 00:12:20,310 --> 00:12:16,399 what they're hoping to achieve in the 342 00:12:25,350 --> 00:12:23,030 crs-3 is planned for late fall this year 343 00:12:29,430 --> 00:12:25,360 it will be the first uh crs mission that 344 00:12:34,150 --> 00:12:31,670 and uh let's see our orbital friends had 345 00:12:36,150 --> 00:12:34,160 their test firing 346 00:12:38,870 --> 00:12:36,160 hot fire test 347 00:12:41,430 --> 00:12:38,880 successfully completed on friday and so 348 00:12:44,230 --> 00:12:41,440 they're headed towards an early april 349 00:12:45,190 --> 00:12:44,240 uh test flight uh which puts a demo 350 00:12:47,670 --> 00:12:45,200 flight 351 00:12:49,590 --> 00:12:47,680 uh potentially in in the early uh summer 352 00:12:51,350 --> 00:12:49,600 time frame so that's what we're planning 353 00:12:56,790 --> 00:12:51,360 for 354 00:13:00,389 --> 00:12:56,800 gwen um are there any secondary payloads 355 00:13:01,670 --> 00:13:00,399 on board celestis orbcom 356 00:13:03,269 --> 00:13:01,680 no i don't believe there are no there's 357 00:13:05,829 --> 00:13:03,279 certainly no orbcom and i don't believe 358 00:13:07,509 --> 00:13:05,839 there's any celestos no this is all the 359 00:13:11,829 --> 00:13:07,519 determination of the 360 00:13:14,550 --> 00:13:11,839 engine uh issue with the crs one flight 361 00:13:17,430 --> 00:13:14,560 the uh what what was determined to be 362 00:13:20,069 --> 00:13:17,440 the cause sure there was a material flaw 363 00:13:22,710 --> 00:13:20,079 that went undetected in the 364 00:13:24,949 --> 00:13:22,720 in the jacket of the merlin engine 365 00:13:26,790 --> 00:13:24,959 resulting in a breach 366 00:13:28,790 --> 00:13:26,800 into the flight 367 00:13:30,629 --> 00:13:28,800 causing depressurization of the 368 00:13:32,829 --> 00:13:30,639 combustion chamber 369 00:13:34,629 --> 00:13:32,839 then the flight computer recognized that 370 00:13:36,230 --> 00:13:34,639 depressurization and then the commanded 371 00:13:37,590 --> 00:13:36,240 shutdown 372 00:13:38,550 --> 00:13:37,600 the vehicle 373 00:13:40,550 --> 00:13:38,560 went 374 00:13:42,870 --> 00:13:40,560 and continued along its trajectory and 375 00:13:45,189 --> 00:13:42,880 did drop dragon off in an orbit that 376 00:13:47,590 --> 00:13:45,199 allowed dragon to get to the space 377 00:13:49,430 --> 00:13:47,600 station actually 30 minutes earlier than 378 00:13:50,230 --> 00:13:49,440 planned 379 00:13:54,629 --> 00:13:50,240 so 380 00:13:56,949 --> 00:13:54,639 mission i want to point out that 381 00:13:58,790 --> 00:13:56,959 this vehicle has been designed to to 382 00:13:59,910 --> 00:13:58,800 accommodate an engine out 383 00:14:02,069 --> 00:13:59,920 and 384 00:14:03,509 --> 00:14:02,079 though you never necessarily want to see 385 00:14:05,590 --> 00:14:03,519 it happen it's nice that we've 386 00:14:07,590 --> 00:14:05,600 demonstrated uh the vehicle as it was 387 00:14:09,030 --> 00:14:07,600 designed 388 00:14:10,949 --> 00:14:09,040 what was the material 389 00:14:12,230 --> 00:14:10,959 you know i've got a very detailed report 390 00:14:13,990 --> 00:14:12,240 that's getting reviewed by state 391 00:14:15,750 --> 00:14:14,000 department right now 392 00:14:17,189 --> 00:14:15,760 as soon as that report has been reviewed 393 00:14:19,350 --> 00:14:17,199 and approved then i can give more 394 00:14:20,550 --> 00:14:19,360 details this is probably the 395 00:14:23,269 --> 00:14:20,560 kind of the 396 00:14:25,750 --> 00:14:23,279 toughest thing to talk about uh 397 00:14:27,189 --> 00:14:25,760 when it comes to uh itar 398 00:14:28,550 --> 00:14:27,199 engine failures anomalies and 399 00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:28,560 investigations i'm going to be a little 400 00:14:33,030 --> 00:14:30,880 bit conservative about it you mean the 401 00:14:35,030 --> 00:14:33,040 material of the engine or like a for 402 00:14:36,629 --> 00:14:35,040 like fod i mean it's a little unclear 403 00:14:39,269 --> 00:14:36,639 what you're talking about in the jacket 404 00:14:45,030 --> 00:14:42,230 todd uh todd halperson of florida today 405 00:14:46,949 --> 00:14:45,040 um even though it might be difficult i 406 00:14:49,829 --> 00:14:46,959 wonder if you could tell us what steps 407 00:14:53,110 --> 00:14:49,839 you've taken to prevent a recurrence of 408 00:14:56,629 --> 00:14:53,120 the engine out that you had and i'm also 409 00:14:58,629 --> 00:14:56,639 curious about how many launch attempts 410 00:15:00,389 --> 00:14:58,639 with the falcon 9 you can make in a row 411 00:15:03,430 --> 00:15:00,399 in the old shuttle world you know they'd 412 00:15:04,389 --> 00:15:03,440 usually try twice and then stand down a 413 00:15:07,189 --> 00:15:04,399 day 414 00:15:08,949 --> 00:15:07,199 i'm just wondering can you do three four 415 00:15:10,629 --> 00:15:08,959 five in a row 416 00:15:13,030 --> 00:15:10,639 i'll take the second question first i'm 417 00:15:15,350 --> 00:15:13,040 not aware of any uh issue that would 418 00:15:17,829 --> 00:15:15,360 cause us from a vehicle perspective to 419 00:15:19,750 --> 00:15:17,839 have to come back down 420 00:15:21,430 --> 00:15:19,760 and roll back into the hangar 421 00:15:24,069 --> 00:15:21,440 now there would be nasa cargo that we 422 00:15:25,350 --> 00:15:24,079 would have to deal with if we were to 423 00:15:26,949 --> 00:15:25,360 delay 424 00:15:28,790 --> 00:15:26,959 substantially 425 00:15:30,550 --> 00:15:28,800 as far as what we did to 426 00:15:31,509 --> 00:15:30,560 clear the engines for this particular 427 00:15:34,150 --> 00:15:31,519 flight 428 00:15:35,829 --> 00:15:34,160 we did extensive analysis obviously to 429 00:15:37,350 --> 00:15:35,839 understand the problem 430 00:15:38,870 --> 00:15:37,360 extensive 431 00:15:40,389 --> 00:15:38,880 assessment and testing on these 432 00:15:41,749 --> 00:15:40,399 particular engines 433 00:15:44,629 --> 00:15:41,759 the field of science that we're talking 434 00:15:46,069 --> 00:15:44,639 about is called nde non-destructive 435 00:15:48,629 --> 00:15:46,079 evaluation 436 00:15:50,310 --> 00:15:48,639 it's as much an art as a science 437 00:15:52,150 --> 00:15:50,320 and we certainly are getting much better 438 00:15:54,389 --> 00:15:52,160 at it as we 439 00:15:56,790 --> 00:15:54,399 as we mature here but i'm going to make 440 00:15:59,030 --> 00:15:56,800 a shameless call for any uh 441 00:16:01,110 --> 00:15:59,040 extraordinary nde experts that want to 442 00:16:03,749 --> 00:16:01,120 come and change the state of science or 443 00:16:09,189 --> 00:16:03,759 the state of the art we're hiring you at 444 00:16:14,550 --> 00:16:10,230 jason 445 00:16:17,430 --> 00:16:14,560 gwen you uh gave the uh total for about 446 00:16:19,030 --> 00:16:17,440 uh i'm going to look back at a pdf that 447 00:16:21,030 --> 00:16:19,040 i got here from that was issued from 448 00:16:23,430 --> 00:16:21,040 spacex 449 00:16:25,590 --> 00:16:23,440 20 000 kilograms i believe is the amount 450 00:16:27,590 --> 00:16:25,600 that you are required to launch the 451 00:16:30,069 --> 00:16:27,600 international space station per crs 452 00:16:31,910 --> 00:16:30,079 contract and given the numbers i had to 453 00:16:33,829 --> 00:16:31,920 do a little quick math there and forgive 454 00:16:36,870 --> 00:16:33,839 me if i'm a bit off but the total i've 455 00:16:38,949 --> 00:16:36,880 come up with is around 14 000 456 00:16:41,590 --> 00:16:38,959 can we expect a 457 00:16:42,949 --> 00:16:41,600 dramatic uptick in or at least an uptick 458 00:16:45,110 --> 00:16:42,959 in the amount that you're lifting per 459 00:16:46,470 --> 00:16:45,120 these flights or they remain fairly 460 00:16:49,030 --> 00:16:46,480 consistent 461 00:16:50,790 --> 00:16:49,040 kilograms to pound conversion being what 462 00:16:52,389 --> 00:16:50,800 it is i'm hoping my numbers aren't too 463 00:16:54,389 --> 00:16:52,399 far off thank you i think your numbers 464 00:16:56,230 --> 00:16:54,399 are off but i hate to do math in public 465 00:16:57,110 --> 00:16:56,240 so we can chat offline 466 00:16:59,430 --> 00:16:57,120 um 467 00:17:01,670 --> 00:16:59,440 but uh the 468 00:17:04,470 --> 00:17:01,680 the the car the cargo requirement is 20 469 00:17:06,309 --> 00:17:04,480 metric tons uh carriage up and back we 470 00:17:07,909 --> 00:17:06,319 will far exceed that with the 12 471 00:17:10,069 --> 00:17:07,919 missions that we have 472 00:17:12,549 --> 00:17:10,079 the upgraded falcon 9 launch vehicle 473 00:17:14,150 --> 00:17:12,559 will accommodate a dramatic increase in 474 00:17:15,990 --> 00:17:14,160 cargo as well 475 00:17:18,630 --> 00:17:16,000 so you will see an increased amount of 476 00:17:20,230 --> 00:17:18,640 cargo both due to probably nasa comfort 477 00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:20,240 with our maturity 478 00:17:23,829 --> 00:17:22,160 in getting to space station in addition 479 00:17:25,909 --> 00:17:23,839 uh the upgraded falcon 9 allows 480 00:17:27,990 --> 00:17:25,919 additional carriage of cargo 481 00:17:29,590 --> 00:17:28,000 upgraded uh falcon 9 when can we expect 482 00:17:30,870 --> 00:17:29,600 to see the first launch of that from 483 00:17:32,310 --> 00:17:30,880 from here i guess 484 00:17:33,909 --> 00:17:32,320 from the cape the first flight of that 485 00:17:35,830 --> 00:17:33,919 vehicle will be from vandenberg we'll be 486 00:17:36,950 --> 00:17:35,840 carrying the cassiopeia satellite for 487 00:17:38,470 --> 00:17:36,960 canada 488 00:17:39,909 --> 00:17:38,480 and that launch should occur uh the 489 00:17:41,990 --> 00:17:39,919 first half of this year probably late 490 00:17:43,430 --> 00:17:42,000 first half of this year late june then 491 00:17:45,590 --> 00:17:43,440 we have two additional commercial 492 00:17:47,270 --> 00:17:45,600 missions to fly 493 00:17:49,510 --> 00:17:47,280 right away they will be here from the 494 00:17:52,150 --> 00:17:49,520 cape uh both ses 495 00:17:56,630 --> 00:17:52,160 as well as tycom so we'll fly two gto 496 00:18:02,950 --> 00:17:56,640 flights uh right after cassiope and then 497 00:18:08,070 --> 00:18:05,669 robert palmin with collectspace.com 498 00:18:09,590 --> 00:18:08,080 what drove the flight day to rendezvous 499 00:18:11,350 --> 00:18:09,600 and grapple 500 00:18:14,150 --> 00:18:11,360 the accelerated schedule was there some 501 00:18:16,470 --> 00:18:14,160 particular need and excuse the levity 502 00:18:19,830 --> 00:18:16,480 but last time you flew ice cream 503 00:18:20,870 --> 00:18:19,840 anything uh sweet on board for the crew 504 00:18:22,390 --> 00:18:20,880 was that direct i'm assuming you 505 00:18:24,070 --> 00:18:22,400 directed that at me 506 00:18:26,789 --> 00:18:24,080 it's i think it's purely orbital 507 00:18:28,950 --> 00:18:26,799 geometry we just end up launching at a 508 00:18:31,669 --> 00:18:28,960 time when the space station is 509 00:18:34,390 --> 00:18:31,679 closer but accurate 510 00:18:37,590 --> 00:18:34,400 without going to orbital mechanics anya 511 00:18:39,909 --> 00:18:37,600 and then there is a crew package 512 00:18:42,789 --> 00:18:39,919 um it's a little bit healthier i think 513 00:18:44,470 --> 00:18:42,799 than the one that nasa sent last time 514 00:18:48,390 --> 00:18:44,480 it came from one of our employees 515 00:18:53,270 --> 00:18:51,029 okay over here tyler robertson with nasa 516 00:18:55,270 --> 00:18:53,280 social representing pinehead tv my 517 00:18:58,230 --> 00:18:55,280 question is about the solar arrays in a 518 00:18:59,750 --> 00:18:58,240 situation that they don't deploy how do 519 00:19:02,070 --> 00:18:59,760 what happens with the mission does it 520 00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:02,080 get truncated and then also what happens 521 00:19:05,029 --> 00:19:03,520 should they not function once they're 522 00:19:07,430 --> 00:19:05,039 deployed how does that affect the 523 00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:07,440 battery redundancy on board dragon 524 00:19:12,150 --> 00:19:10,160 that's a really good question 525 00:19:14,789 --> 00:19:12,160 i don't know the answer to that but i 526 00:19:16,789 --> 00:19:14,799 will follow up we do have very 527 00:19:18,549 --> 00:19:16,799 pretty extensive capacity batteries on 528 00:19:20,950 --> 00:19:18,559 dragon i just don't 529 00:19:23,590 --> 00:19:20,960 we might be able to make one attempt 530 00:19:25,029 --> 00:19:23,600 at birthing with the iss 531 00:19:27,029 --> 00:19:25,039 just on the batteries alone i don't know 532 00:19:28,549 --> 00:19:27,039 that's this from a system perspective we 533 00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:28,559 would consider doing that but let me let 534 00:19:31,510 --> 00:19:29,679 me follow up on that that's a good 535 00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:31,520 question 536 00:19:35,909 --> 00:19:32,320 bill 537 00:19:38,230 --> 00:19:35,919 question to mike 538 00:19:40,870 --> 00:19:38,240 that was a pretty dramatic uh event 539 00:19:42,549 --> 00:19:40,880 during crs-1 i mean i've never seen in 540 00:19:44,789 --> 00:19:42,559 25 years that much hardware come off a 541 00:19:46,549 --> 00:19:44,799 rocket and you still get to orbit um 542 00:19:48,070 --> 00:19:46,559 that's reality and it's a compliment to 543 00:19:49,350 --> 00:19:48,080 you gwen i guess because the thing did 544 00:19:51,350 --> 00:19:49,360 get to orbit as you say that was 545 00:19:52,710 --> 00:19:51,360 remarkable but what mike what do you 546 00:19:54,390 --> 00:19:52,720 what did you have to see to make you 547 00:19:55,990 --> 00:19:54,400 confident that they have in fact done 548 00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:56,000 what they need to do to make sure 549 00:19:59,029 --> 00:19:57,039 something like that doesn't happen again 550 00:20:01,110 --> 00:19:59,039 or something worse 551 00:20:02,870 --> 00:20:01,120 uh that's a good question bill um you 552 00:20:05,029 --> 00:20:02,880 know it's sort of uh 553 00:20:06,870 --> 00:20:05,039 a unique relationship that we have in 554 00:20:08,630 --> 00:20:06,880 the past and i've been asked this in 555 00:20:11,350 --> 00:20:08,640 public more than once 556 00:20:12,789 --> 00:20:11,360 in the past because of the 557 00:20:14,310 --> 00:20:12,799 build of the 558 00:20:15,110 --> 00:20:14,320 vehicles and the 559 00:20:17,029 --> 00:20:15,120 the 560 00:20:18,470 --> 00:20:17,039 taxpayers dollars used to build it we 561 00:20:20,870 --> 00:20:18,480 typically have been very open about 562 00:20:23,190 --> 00:20:20,880 everything that we have done and looked 563 00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:23,200 at and found within the boundaries of 564 00:20:27,510 --> 00:20:24,320 the law 565 00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:27,520 as they as they exist today and so 566 00:20:31,590 --> 00:20:29,600 with this new relationship we have two 567 00:20:33,510 --> 00:20:31,600 things we still have the same laws we 568 00:20:35,029 --> 00:20:33,520 have about export control and worrying 569 00:20:37,190 --> 00:20:35,039 about the itar 570 00:20:39,510 --> 00:20:37,200 but also we have proprietary information 571 00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:39,520 that that you don't want to get out into 572 00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:41,600 the open but the relationship we have 573 00:20:46,710 --> 00:20:43,919 with spacex is such that 574 00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:46,720 we we see anything that they see and we 575 00:20:50,230 --> 00:20:48,400 sat next to them and worked with them 576 00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:50,240 and provided some 577 00:20:54,789 --> 00:20:52,799 some assistance uh a little bit of 578 00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:54,799 expertise uh they borrowed some of our 579 00:21:00,470 --> 00:20:57,280 nde guys as as was shown so we could 580 00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:00,480 stare at uh at interesting uh i'll call 581 00:21:05,590 --> 00:21:02,640 them pictures for uh 582 00:21:07,669 --> 00:21:05,600 to keep it as as bland as possible but 583 00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:07,679 quite a bit of work was done to try to 584 00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:09,520 analyze the cause of the anomaly we 585 00:21:13,430 --> 00:21:12,320 participated in all of that 586 00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:13,440 we 587 00:21:17,669 --> 00:21:16,080 their extensive work was done on the 588 00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:17,679 history of the engines and the testing 589 00:21:21,750 --> 00:21:20,000 done to the engines prior to flight 590 00:21:23,590 --> 00:21:21,760 what they were exposed to how they were 591 00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:23,600 how they were inspected before they were 592 00:21:28,830 --> 00:21:24,960 assembled 593 00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:28,840 all of this work we went through with 594 00:21:34,310 --> 00:21:32,240 them and so the conclusions they came to 595 00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:34,320 we agree with the work they did to 596 00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:37,200 ensure that this vehicle is about to fly 597 00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:39,520 we agree with and and our role of course 598 00:21:44,789 --> 00:21:42,880 is nasa is to sit next to them and and 599 00:21:46,310 --> 00:21:44,799 and work with them and understand the 600 00:21:48,470 --> 00:21:46,320 anomaly so that we're comfortable we 601 00:21:50,230 --> 00:21:48,480 have we have two options as the customer 602 00:21:51,669 --> 00:21:50,240 we can either put our hardware on that 603 00:21:53,750 --> 00:21:51,679 vehicle or not 604 00:21:55,029 --> 00:21:53,760 and when we were done we we felt like 605 00:21:56,789 --> 00:21:55,039 the risk we were accepting with this 606 00:21:58,390 --> 00:21:56,799 flight was the same as we'd accepted 607 00:21:59,350 --> 00:21:58,400 with the previous flights 608 00:22:01,110 --> 00:21:59,360 and 609 00:22:03,350 --> 00:22:01,120 we put all the hardware we had we needed 610 00:22:04,710 --> 00:22:03,360 to fly on that vehicle so we wouldn't 611 00:22:06,149 --> 00:22:04,720 have any restrictions on the hardware 612 00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:06,159 that we put on this on this vehicle for 613 00:22:10,070 --> 00:22:07,679 this flight 614 00:22:13,029 --> 00:22:10,080 i'd like to clarify bill the uh 615 00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:13,039 the pieces that you saw uh in the plume 616 00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:15,280 were the fairing basically secondary 617 00:22:18,230 --> 00:22:16,960 structure i just didn't want anyone to 618 00:22:19,590 --> 00:22:18,240 think that uh 619 00:22:21,909 --> 00:22:19,600 that the engine flew off because that 620 00:22:24,549 --> 00:22:21,919 was there out in the blogs as well 621 00:22:28,149 --> 00:22:24,559 yep 622 00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:28,159 yeah hi dan billow with wesh tv for gwen 623 00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:30,480 shotwell um what would be the effect of 624 00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:33,440 a sequester on spacex's milestones for 625 00:22:37,110 --> 00:22:35,360 this year you have a lot of stuff going 626 00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:37,120 on at the launch pads out there and on 627 00:22:42,789 --> 00:22:39,440 the the goal stated in your press kit to 628 00:22:45,590 --> 00:22:42,799 launch astronauts by 2015. 629 00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:45,600 the sequester won't impact 630 00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:47,919 any of spacex's commercial business that 631 00:22:52,149 --> 00:22:50,640 we have this year 632 00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:52,159 mike will have to comment on 633 00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:54,400 sequestration and its possible impact on 634 00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:56,320 crs3 635 00:22:59,669 --> 00:22:57,760 as well i'd need someone from the 636 00:23:01,990 --> 00:22:59,679 commercial crew office to talk about any 637 00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:02,000 impact that they would have on the 638 00:23:08,789 --> 00:23:04,880 milestones that we plan to execute 639 00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:08,799 it's not up to me it's up to my customer 640 00:23:13,750 --> 00:23:11,600 uh from a sequestration standpoint our 641 00:23:14,870 --> 00:23:13,760 initial looks from an iss program 642 00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:14,880 perspective 643 00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:17,280 we won't get an impact that will cause 644 00:23:23,669 --> 00:23:20,400 us to change our plans in any way 645 00:23:25,909 --> 00:23:23,679 as we know it today 646 00:23:27,270 --> 00:23:25,919 ken hi ken kramer for space flight 647 00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:27,280 magazine um 648 00:23:30,390 --> 00:23:29,120 two questions for for gwen one is a 649 00:23:32,470 --> 00:23:30,400 follow-up actually i have a similar 650 00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:32,480 concern to jason about about the weight 651 00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:34,080 that you're carrying up 652 00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:36,480 um are you maxed out on the weight of 653 00:23:41,110 --> 00:23:39,120 this version of the uh falcon 9 and is 654 00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:41,120 it the maximum weight the other question 655 00:23:45,510 --> 00:23:42,559 i'm wondering is about there were some 656 00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:45,520 other anomalies on on the last flight 657 00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:48,400 related to the glacier freezer freezer 658 00:23:52,630 --> 00:23:50,799 and the um some of the computers that 659 00:23:53,909 --> 00:23:52,640 were made may not have been radiation 660 00:23:56,149 --> 00:23:53,919 hardened sufficiently one of them 661 00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:56,159 knocked out so um what have you done to 662 00:23:59,510 --> 00:23:57,520 address this please 663 00:24:02,310 --> 00:23:59,520 so the issue that we saw with glacier 664 00:24:05,190 --> 00:24:02,320 was there was some water intrusion uh 665 00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:05,200 uh in the um 666 00:24:09,269 --> 00:24:06,880 in the service section of the dragon 667 00:24:12,070 --> 00:24:09,279 capsule after we landed 668 00:24:13,909 --> 00:24:12,080 we have since put 669 00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:13,919 good measures in place this vehicle was 670 00:24:18,310 --> 00:24:15,360 largely built 671 00:24:21,190 --> 00:24:18,320 after after that vehicle after crs-2 or 672 00:24:23,190 --> 00:24:21,200 crs-1 landed so we put we retrofitted 673 00:24:24,789 --> 00:24:23,200 this vehicle uh to the extent we 674 00:24:26,710 --> 00:24:24,799 possibly could we think we've eliminated 675 00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:26,720 the issue the next dragon that we fly 676 00:24:31,510 --> 00:24:28,480 will have even more robust methods to 677 00:24:32,789 --> 00:24:31,520 keep water basically out of the of that 678 00:24:34,470 --> 00:24:32,799 particular element of the service 679 00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:34,480 section so basically water got into the 680 00:24:37,909 --> 00:24:36,400 service section um and i don't know 681 00:24:40,149 --> 00:24:37,919 exactly whether it shorted out some of 682 00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:40,159 the power to glacier or not um but the 683 00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:43,440 power was uh out on glacier until uh uh 684 00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:45,120 the recovery crew got dragging back on 685 00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:47,200 board so it was two between two hours 686 00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:48,720 two and three hours 687 00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:50,640 i think it was almost four almost four 688 00:24:56,149 --> 00:24:52,799 hours thanks for the correction um as 689 00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:56,159 far as the uh uh flight the dragon 690 00:25:00,310 --> 00:24:58,240 computer anomaly i don't want to say 691 00:25:01,830 --> 00:25:00,320 that it wasn't radiation hardened enough 692 00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:01,840 the system worked exactly it was 693 00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:03,039 designed to 694 00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:05,200 we are we've designed a electronics 695 00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:07,679 architecture that's radiation tolerant 696 00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:09,600 so we accept faults 697 00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:12,000 the systems recover and we continue to 698 00:25:16,230 --> 00:25:14,400 fly we did so there's three flight 699 00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:16,240 computers on dragon 700 00:25:20,710 --> 00:25:18,880 this particular item uh this particular 701 00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:20,720 fault uh took the 702 00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:22,720 that particular computer out of sync 703 00:25:28,149 --> 00:25:24,960 with the other two we did they were all 704 00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:28,159 three operational we decided for many 705 00:25:32,070 --> 00:25:30,159 reasons many i don't necessarily want to 706 00:25:33,909 --> 00:25:32,080 go into them here we decided to not 707 00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:33,919 resync up that third computer with the 708 00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:35,840 other two so we flew home on the two 709 00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:38,080 computers the system is designed to fly 710 00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:40,240 on one uh two represent some good 711 00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:41,600 redundancy 712 00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:43,360 we would have to have re-sunk that 713 00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:45,679 computer if we had if we took another 714 00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:47,679 fault so we have to leave station with 715 00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:51,269 okay 716 00:25:56,390 --> 00:25:53,039 you know i don't know if we're maxed out 717 00:25:58,710 --> 00:25:56,400 um up or not um 718 00:26:02,950 --> 00:25:58,720 we're probably close on this particular 719 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,190 yeah 720 00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:06,230 daryl 721 00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:08,320 let's see but before you go on i'm sorry 722 00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:10,480 the glacier comment let 723 00:26:13,269 --> 00:26:11,760 i want to talk about that a little bit 724 00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:13,279 because there's enough 725 00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:15,440 discussion out in the airwaves that i 726 00:26:18,549 --> 00:26:16,960 ought to 727 00:26:20,149 --> 00:26:18,559 discuss it a bit you know glaciers are 728 00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:20,159 very important to us this is our way to 729 00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:22,559 get our our samples home 730 00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:25,039 after the demo mission uh when they 731 00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:27,279 first had this water intrusion problem 732 00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:28,960 in the in the service section and by the 733 00:26:33,909 --> 00:26:32,400 way this is not the pressurized volume 734 00:26:35,430 --> 00:26:33,919 of the capsule this is a lower portion 735 00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:35,440 of the capsule that's open to the 736 00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:37,840 environment 737 00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:40,400 spacex folks came to us and asked talk 738 00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:42,000 to us about the anomaly talk to us about 739 00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:44,240 the likelihood that the uh the power 740 00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:46,559 would fail to the glacier before the 741 00:26:51,590 --> 00:26:49,120 capsule was retrieved uh we talked about 742 00:26:53,669 --> 00:26:51,600 worst case best case scenarios and and 743 00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:53,679 based on that information we chose which 744 00:26:57,750 --> 00:26:55,760 samples to put in the glacier 745 00:26:59,830 --> 00:26:57,760 we filled the glacier up coming home and 746 00:27:01,669 --> 00:26:59,840 the samples were fine even with the with 747 00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:01,679 the lost power and 748 00:27:05,590 --> 00:27:03,840 and the the loss of power time i don't 749 00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:05,600 remember the exact time was within the 750 00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:08,000 window that we had analyzed 751 00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:11,520 for this for this flight uh the spacex 752 00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:12,720 team 753 00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:14,559 went to great lengths to go in and make 754 00:27:18,950 --> 00:27:17,279 mods to these particular boxes and the 755 00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:18,960 cables that lead into them to try to 756 00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:20,480 seal them up 757 00:27:25,269 --> 00:27:23,360 and we as as uh gwen said we have a 758 00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:25,279 modification of those boxes the 759 00:27:28,630 --> 00:27:26,720 permanent modification those boxes 760 00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:28,640 coming on the next on the next dragon 761 00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:30,480 but on this dragon in an attempt to give 762 00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:32,000 us a little more 763 00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:34,240 time they went off and and made a mod to 764 00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:35,600 the boxes they actually tested in a 765 00:27:39,430 --> 00:27:37,120 water chamber 766 00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:39,440 so we feel like our time to failure if 767 00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:41,039 it occurs is 768 00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:43,360 shorter and and using that information 769 00:27:46,830 --> 00:27:44,880 we went back to the researchers to 770 00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:46,840 decide which samples to bring home this 771 00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:49,600 time and in no case did any researcher 772 00:27:52,870 --> 00:27:51,279 want to not come home 773 00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:52,880 in this glacier so again we'll fly the 774 00:27:55,510 --> 00:27:54,320 glacier home with the research we need 775 00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:55,520 to bring home 776 00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:57,360 so this has not constrained us anyway 777 00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:58,640 and that was what i've been hearing a 778 00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:00,399 little bit about in the airways so i 779 00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:05,750 daryl 780 00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:10,880 charlie bolden wrote congress and told 781 00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:12,640 him that one of the milestones that 782 00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:14,720 couldn't be funded was the spacex 783 00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:16,799 in-flight abort test review what does 784 00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:19,120 that test and and would that not push 785 00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:22,320 out a return uh to american astronauts 786 00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:23,440 into space 787 00:28:28,230 --> 00:28:25,360 and then the question for nasa 788 00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:28,240 does the sequester uh does is it 789 00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:30,640 weighted towards commercial crew in 790 00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:32,399 terms of the cuts 791 00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:34,799 you want to answer first i'll go first 792 00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:37,440 so if sequestration occurs 793 00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:39,520 and if nasa 794 00:28:44,149 --> 00:28:41,760 has to decrease the commercial crew 795 00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:44,159 budget there will likely be an impact to 796 00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:46,559 our milestones my comment before was not 797 00:28:50,950 --> 00:28:48,240 to say that there isn't it's just that i 798 00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:50,960 don't know exactly what will occur 799 00:28:53,909 --> 00:28:52,640 i don't know that sequestration will 800 00:28:55,190 --> 00:28:53,919 occur although i have a pretty good 801 00:28:56,149 --> 00:28:55,200 guess 802 00:28:57,590 --> 00:28:56,159 and 803 00:28:59,350 --> 00:28:57,600 if it does occur 804 00:29:00,870 --> 00:28:59,360 i don't know what steps nasa is going to 805 00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:00,880 take i don't know what programs they're 806 00:29:03,510 --> 00:29:02,480 going to look at and i don't know how 807 00:29:06,630 --> 00:29:03,520 they're going to restructure their 808 00:29:10,389 --> 00:29:08,389 there has been some discussion about 809 00:29:12,070 --> 00:29:10,399 specific milestones 810 00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:12,080 out in the airwaves as mike would say 811 00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:13,840 but i've also heard other discussions as 812 00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:16,480 well so i just really rather not comment 813 00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:18,080 i'm happy to discuss it as soon as we 814 00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:19,760 know what what the funding will actually 815 00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:24,470 and i have enough time hard enough time 816 00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:26,960 keeping up with stations so i'm not i'm 817 00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:29,360 not aware of the splits i know what the 818 00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:32,080 impact is to the to iss and as i said 819 00:29:35,190 --> 00:29:32,880 it's 820 00:29:36,950 --> 00:29:35,200 uh we won't have an issue doing the 821 00:29:38,830 --> 00:29:36,960 program that we planned given what we've 822 00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:38,840 been told so 823 00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:40,480 far 824 00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:41,600 all right 825 00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:44,080 phillip sloss with nasaspaceflight.com a 826 00:29:48,389 --> 00:29:46,320 couple of grapple fixture questions uh 827 00:29:51,029 --> 00:29:48,399 first we're miss shotwell um do you have 828 00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:51,039 a breakdown of the the mass going up for 829 00:29:55,029 --> 00:29:52,559 the gravel fixtures and the flight 830 00:29:58,789 --> 00:29:55,039 support equipment on that i do so the 831 00:30:01,350 --> 00:29:58,799 grapple bars are 273 kilos i don't know 832 00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:01,360 if that mass includes the bundling 833 00:30:05,590 --> 00:30:03,360 equipment as well 834 00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:05,600 the fixed support equipment is a hundred 835 00:30:10,230 --> 00:30:07,679 kilos that's the that basically stays 836 00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:10,240 with the dragon 837 00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:11,360 and then 838 00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:13,360 for mr stafford um 839 00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:14,880 i believe that these are going to be 840 00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:17,120 placed on the mobile base system on a 841 00:30:21,669 --> 00:30:18,559 poa 842 00:30:23,350 --> 00:30:21,679 and then moved during an eva later in 843 00:30:25,110 --> 00:30:23,360 the year do you know 844 00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:25,120 where on the trusses those are going to 845 00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:26,000 go 846 00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:28,000 oh wow that is amazing first it's 847 00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:29,440 amazing that you're interested enough to 848 00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:36,789 i i'm racking my brain and i can't 849 00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:38,720 remember where they're gonna go i wish i 850 00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:40,320 could i wish i could tell you but we'll 851 00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:41,440 follow up with you and let you know 852 00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:42,559 that's an excellent question certainly 853 00:30:46,870 --> 00:30:44,000 one i ought to know 854 00:30:51,669 --> 00:30:49,430 hi um i have a two-part question so 855 00:30:54,789 --> 00:30:51,679 first to mike what does it mean to 856 00:30:57,669 --> 00:30:54,799 provide this kind of service to the iss 857 00:30:59,750 --> 00:30:57,679 and uh to gwen what does it mean uh 858 00:31:02,470 --> 00:30:59,760 for you as a company 859 00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:02,480 to provide a service like this to the 860 00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:04,000 united states 861 00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:05,840 and how does it feel to be sending up 862 00:31:11,509 --> 00:31:08,640 cargo for the second time 863 00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:12,230 if 864 00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:16,320 been trying to communicate to the 865 00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:18,240 outside world the international space 866 00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:24,710 fundamentally a research platform 867 00:31:30,070 --> 00:31:28,799 that is com unique and extremely capable 868 00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:30,080 and with it 869 00:31:34,950 --> 00:31:33,360 i expect that the individuals over the 870 00:31:36,549 --> 00:31:34,960 years will find things that were 871 00:31:37,990 --> 00:31:36,559 discovered or done on board space 872 00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:38,000 station that will affect their very 873 00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:40,320 lives in a in a profound way that's my 874 00:31:45,509 --> 00:31:42,399 belief 875 00:31:47,669 --> 00:31:45,519 and without without the spacex vehicle 876 00:31:49,509 --> 00:31:47,679 and and the other commercial vehicle we 877 00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:49,519 the simple answer is we won't be able to 878 00:31:54,070 --> 00:31:52,720 do that we with what we have in terms of 879 00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:54,080 of um 880 00:31:57,029 --> 00:31:56,080 other partner vehicles we could keep the 881 00:31:58,950 --> 00:31:57,039 station 882 00:32:01,830 --> 00:31:58,960 in orbit and the crews 883 00:32:03,909 --> 00:32:01,840 healthy but to get the kind of robust up 884 00:32:06,870 --> 00:32:03,919 and down that we require 885 00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:06,880 to do beneficial research that'll make a 886 00:32:10,630 --> 00:32:08,640 difference to us all and and make it 887 00:32:11,669 --> 00:32:10,640 worth the expense we paid to build this 888 00:32:13,190 --> 00:32:11,679 thing 889 00:32:14,950 --> 00:32:13,200 in the first place we have to have these 890 00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:14,960 kind of vehicles so 891 00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:17,679 that's why at the beginning today i i 892 00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:20,000 i said this is an integral part of the 893 00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:22,320 research we do onboard iss you need the 894 00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:24,080 iss you need the platform but you need 895 00:32:27,509 --> 00:32:25,760 the system to allow you 896 00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:27,519 to bring stuff up bring stuff down and 897 00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:29,760 it's got to be in a in a way that you 898 00:32:33,509 --> 00:32:31,200 can can 899 00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:33,519 deal with when you get home so not only 900 00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:35,279 do we have a pressurized system coming 901 00:32:37,990 --> 00:32:36,960 home we have a pressurized system allows 902 00:32:39,909 --> 00:32:38,000 us to have 903 00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:39,919 uh refrigeration which is very important 904 00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:42,480 to our samples that 905 00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:45,440 that we fix on orbit in that fashion in 906 00:32:49,029 --> 00:32:47,039 addition that in the near future you'll 907 00:32:51,430 --> 00:32:49,039 hear us start talking about flying 908 00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:51,440 rodents again flying mice again 909 00:32:55,750 --> 00:32:53,600 this is very important to 910 00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:55,760 osteoporosis type research and other 911 00:32:59,190 --> 00:32:57,600 types of research and 912 00:33:01,830 --> 00:32:59,200 and that will push the limits of what 913 00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:01,840 spacex can do and what we can do but but 914 00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:04,320 that's why we have a a space station and 915 00:33:08,630 --> 00:33:06,000 that's that's what we're supposed to be 916 00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:08,640 doing so it's it's very significant to 917 00:33:18,389 --> 00:33:15,909 i'm not i will never forget the moment 918 00:33:20,789 --> 00:33:18,399 when we found out that we were awarded 919 00:33:21,669 --> 00:33:20,799 the cots agreement 920 00:33:26,230 --> 00:33:21,679 in 921 00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:26,240 exactly the statement that elon make and 922 00:33:29,269 --> 00:33:28,080 i will refrain because we're 923 00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:29,279 on tv 924 00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:31,440 and children can watch but it was 925 00:33:36,549 --> 00:33:34,320 freaking awesome i can tell you that um 926 00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:36,559 and i ca it hasn't gotten any less 927 00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:38,080 exciting 928 00:33:42,710 --> 00:33:40,880 since that moment so we are so proud 929 00:33:44,549 --> 00:33:42,720 that nasa selected us 930 00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:44,559 i'm so proud of the team that was able 931 00:33:47,669 --> 00:33:45,600 to 932 00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:47,679 make this capability 933 00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:49,279 in the time frame and the budgets that 934 00:33:52,870 --> 00:33:51,039 we had allotted and had two great 935 00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:52,880 missions under our belt 936 00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:54,399 and a third one 937 00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:56,399 to come tomorrow 938 00:34:03,909 --> 00:34:01,430 it's it's it's extraordinary spacex is 939 00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:03,919 really a special place 940 00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:05,200 i know we have some questions in the 941 00:34:07,830 --> 00:34:06,240 back of the room and we'll get a 942 00:34:10,069 --> 00:34:07,840 microphone to you as soon as we can but 943 00:34:12,389 --> 00:34:10,079 let's take a question from jason this 944 00:34:13,829 --> 00:34:12,399 one is uh for for mike and i'm kind of 945 00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:13,839 glad that gwen talked about her 946 00:34:16,710 --> 00:34:15,599 impressions on cots uh you know for 947 00:34:19,589 --> 00:34:16,720 those of us that follow the space 948 00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:19,599 program launch vehicles usually 949 00:34:23,030 --> 00:34:21,679 within their first few launches 75 950 00:34:26,470 --> 00:34:23,040 percent of them 951 00:34:30,310 --> 00:34:26,480 experience a failure a dramatic failure 952 00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:30,320 spacex has beaten that in in triplicate 953 00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:33,280 oh am i jinxing you 954 00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:34,960 uh i wanted to get you and not only that 955 00:34:38,550 --> 00:34:36,240 but more importantly the question goes 956 00:34:39,669 --> 00:34:38,560 to uh the last mission as irene pointed 957 00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:39,679 out that 958 00:34:43,349 --> 00:34:42,000 they had they had an anomaly and they 959 00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:43,359 turned it around fairly quickly and here 960 00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:44,879 they are launching again what are your 961 00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:46,240 thoughts about i mean what's your 962 00:34:52,710 --> 00:34:48,399 impression what spacex is doing out here 963 00:35:02,069 --> 00:34:54,629 you're saying since i came from nasa we 964 00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:03,750 um 965 00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:06,320 well what your worry is it's it's all 966 00:35:11,349 --> 00:35:09,200 about uh what your driving force is and 967 00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:11,359 and how you balance your risk right 968 00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:13,040 um and so these guys are a commercial 969 00:35:16,230 --> 00:35:14,880 company and it doesn't do them any good 970 00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:16,240 they don't make any money sitting on the 971 00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:18,000 ground so their job is to get back to 972 00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:19,520 flying but if their customers not 973 00:35:23,109 --> 00:35:21,119 comfortable and i don't mean just nasa 974 00:35:24,550 --> 00:35:23,119 anybody wants to fly on them 975 00:35:26,950 --> 00:35:24,560 that it's not a reliable system it 976 00:35:28,870 --> 00:35:26,960 doesn't do them any good either so 977 00:35:30,470 --> 00:35:28,880 that's the backdrop that we got started 978 00:35:31,589 --> 00:35:30,480 it really was 979 00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:31,599 a um 980 00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:33,359 it was a conversation it's been a it's 981 00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:34,320 been a 982 00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:36,320 a group effort to go through this we 983 00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:37,280 have been 984 00:35:42,870 --> 00:35:40,000 arm in arm with with our spacex friends 985 00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:42,880 and i can tell you there is nothing that 986 00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:45,200 we would have done 987 00:35:49,589 --> 00:35:47,920 uh that they chose not to do 988 00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:49,599 when it comes to which which you believe 989 00:35:53,829 --> 00:35:51,760 is absolutely mandatory to to try to 990 00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:53,839 sort through this anomaly so 991 00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:56,160 and then recover from it 992 00:36:00,069 --> 00:35:58,320 are there more conservative things one 993 00:36:02,710 --> 00:36:00,079 could choose to do 994 00:36:05,109 --> 00:36:02,720 uh yes would nasa have done them i don't 995 00:36:06,550 --> 00:36:05,119 think so um i think these guys did 996 00:36:08,310 --> 00:36:06,560 everything that 997 00:36:09,510 --> 00:36:08,320 that you should do for the spacecraft 998 00:36:11,910 --> 00:36:09,520 that you're flying in the job you're 999 00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:11,920 trying to do with it so 1000 00:36:15,190 --> 00:36:13,520 i i wouldn't go as far as say if this is 1001 00:36:16,150 --> 00:36:15,200 completely nasa vehicle we'd be flying 1002 00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:16,160 again 1003 00:36:21,030 --> 00:36:18,480 but i can tell you that the the nasa 1004 00:36:24,069 --> 00:36:21,040 experts in all the different areas 1005 00:36:25,990 --> 00:36:24,079 uh that that had to participate to 1006 00:36:27,910 --> 00:36:26,000 really understand the anomaly that 1007 00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:27,920 they're dealt with and the physics 1008 00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:28,960 around it 1009 00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:30,320 were 1010 00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:32,800 in lockstep with what was decided to do 1011 00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:34,560 along the way the analysis was done the 1012 00:36:38,069 --> 00:36:36,000 testing that was done 1013 00:36:39,829 --> 00:36:38,079 and ultimately the nde was done to 1014 00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:39,839 confirm that the vehicle about to fly is 1015 00:36:43,589 --> 00:36:42,000 in in good shape and so 1016 00:36:45,430 --> 00:36:43,599 um you know it's all about your 1017 00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:45,440 priorities and pushing the team and 1018 00:36:48,630 --> 00:36:47,040 making sure they have the resources they 1019 00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:48,640 need to get the job done as quick as 1020 00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:49,839 they can 1021 00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:51,920 and and i think that's what our spacex 1022 00:37:01,109 --> 00:36:59,349 irene klotz with reuters again for gwen 1023 00:37:03,589 --> 00:37:01,119 um could you just give us an update on 1024 00:37:07,349 --> 00:37:03,599 where things stand with the vandenberg 1025 00:37:10,390 --> 00:37:07,359 operations and also the um 1026 00:37:12,310 --> 00:37:10,400 any any progress on selecting a third 1027 00:37:13,910 --> 00:37:12,320 launch site 1028 00:37:16,150 --> 00:37:13,920 so we're 1029 00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:16,160 making tremendous progress at vandenberg 1030 00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:17,200 the site 1031 00:37:20,790 --> 00:37:18,880 could potentially be ready here in the 1032 00:37:22,550 --> 00:37:20,800 next month or so 1033 00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:22,560 to fly a vehicle 1034 00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:24,640 um so we made great progress it was a 1035 00:37:29,510 --> 00:37:27,040 great uh great team effort 1036 00:37:31,829 --> 00:37:29,520 we had a lot of great support the 1037 00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:31,839 vandenberg team itself is quite small 1038 00:37:35,829 --> 00:37:33,680 air force was extraordinary to work with 1039 00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:35,839 we r we built that site really very 1040 00:37:42,470 --> 00:37:39,990 so as far as a commercial site goes 1041 00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:42,480 we'll we're continuing to make progress 1042 00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:44,640 at numerous locations 1043 00:37:48,950 --> 00:37:46,880 we still haven't done a final selection 1044 00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:48,960 there's still hurdles to to get through 1045 00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:51,280 in almost every location 1046 00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:52,560 so we're going to continue to work 1047 00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:54,880 multiple paths till we until we click on 1048 00:38:01,510 --> 00:37:59,030 okay 1049 00:38:03,829 --> 00:38:01,520 um question is for gwen about the falcon 1050 00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:03,839 9 upgrades is that the merlin 1d that's 1051 00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:05,680 on there and then any other upgrades on 1052 00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:07,760 that and then the other question is has 1053 00:38:11,430 --> 00:38:09,200 there been a difference in the way since 1054 00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:11,440 so much attention was brought to crs1 1055 00:38:14,470 --> 00:38:12,720 with the engines is there a difference 1056 00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:14,480 in how you guys have tested or a number 1057 00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:15,520 of times that you guys have tested 1058 00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:19,040 between that launch and this launch 1059 00:38:23,109 --> 00:38:21,599 let me get your last question first i i 1060 00:38:25,349 --> 00:38:23,119 don't think there's been any change in 1061 00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:25,359 the the actual engine firing testing 1062 00:38:29,670 --> 00:38:28,240 that we're doing on on these engines 1063 00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:29,680 we have 1064 00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:31,680 gone through and added a lot of 1065 00:38:35,349 --> 00:38:33,280 additional 1066 00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:35,359 nde i'm sorry i hate using acronyms the 1067 00:38:39,589 --> 00:38:37,440 non-destructive evaluation guys 1068 00:38:41,750 --> 00:38:39,599 we've done a lot we're doing a lot more 1069 00:38:44,069 --> 00:38:41,760 there now the merlin 1d is not 1070 00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:44,079 susceptible to the issue that we did see 1071 00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:46,720 on the crs-1 flight however 1072 00:38:50,470 --> 00:38:48,880 so the the upgraded falcon 9 does have a 1073 00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:50,480 substantial upgrade on the engines the 1074 00:38:54,910 --> 00:38:52,960 1d is uh even more of a screamer than 1075 00:38:58,069 --> 00:38:54,920 the 1c was uh 1076 00:39:00,150 --> 00:38:58,079 150 000 pounds of thrust at sea level 1077 00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:00,160 with versus all under 100 000 pounds of 1078 00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:02,320 thrust for the 1c 1079 00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:04,320 and given that extra thrust you have to 1080 00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:05,440 extend the tanks right you have to 1081 00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:07,440 leverage put more propellant through 1082 00:39:15,109 --> 00:39:13,270 those are the major the major upgrades 1083 00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:15,119 so it was a performance enhancement as 1084 00:39:19,510 --> 00:39:17,040 well as this vehicle is more easily 1085 00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:19,520 manufactured 1086 00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:22,400 marcia marcia done associated press for 1087 00:39:26,069 --> 00:39:24,400 miss shot well you mentioned 2 700 1088 00:39:28,870 --> 00:39:26,079 pounds of stuff 1089 00:39:30,470 --> 00:39:28,880 was that going up because the spacex 1090 00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:30,480 press kit and all the other handouts 1091 00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:32,160 seem to indicate half that weight so i'm 1092 00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:34,320 just trying to clarify 1093 00:39:38,310 --> 00:39:36,079 give or take how much 1094 00:39:40,550 --> 00:39:38,320 cargo is going up aboard the dragon and 1095 00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:40,560 for mike is any of it one of a kind or 1096 00:39:44,790 --> 00:39:42,880 urgently needed equipment anything like 1097 00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:44,800 that on board 1098 00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:46,800 so let me run through the numbers and 1099 00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:49,200 you can tell me if i'm wrong 1100 00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:50,320 in public 1101 00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:54,880 i've got 677 kilos of pressurized cargo 1102 00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:57,359 and the packaging 1103 00:40:00,390 --> 00:39:58,640 that's the pressurized stuff the 1104 00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:00,400 unpressurized the grapple bars and all 1105 00:40:08,309 --> 00:40:04,079 its support equipment is 373 kilos 1106 00:40:16,150 --> 00:40:11,349 1050 kilos up 1107 00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:18,790 for a total of around 2400 kilos if you 1108 00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:20,560 multiplied by 1109 00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:22,000 12 1110 00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:23,599 you would have more than the 20 metric 1111 00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:29,750 required under crs and that's as far as 1112 00:40:39,109 --> 00:40:37,430 is there anything special or unique 1113 00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:39,119 let's see the one thing that comes to 1114 00:40:42,550 --> 00:40:40,560 mind other than all the research about 1115 00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:42,560 half of that is half of the pressurized 1116 00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:44,160 is research hardware 1117 00:40:48,150 --> 00:40:46,160 um so um 1118 00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:48,160 of the pressurized 1119 00:40:51,910 --> 00:40:49,680 we are flying 1120 00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:51,920 dash four beds these are the first dash 1121 00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:53,520 four beds we'll fly for the carbon 1122 00:40:58,790 --> 00:40:57,119 dioxide removal system 1123 00:41:01,030 --> 00:40:58,800 which is 1124 00:41:03,349 --> 00:41:01,040 pretty significant the the carbon 1125 00:41:04,309 --> 00:41:03,359 dioxide removal system 1126 00:41:06,790 --> 00:41:04,319 is 1127 00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:06,800 infamous as it was the only system that 1128 00:41:10,630 --> 00:41:08,560 didn't activate 1129 00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:10,640 properly when we activated the lab and 1130 00:41:14,470 --> 00:41:13,040 it has continued to provide us 1131 00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:14,480 challenges along the way and we've 1132 00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:16,800 sorted out one of the big challenges had 1133 00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:19,040 to do with the the dust that's created 1134 00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:20,880 inside these beds 1135 00:41:24,870 --> 00:41:22,960 over time and the dash 4 gives us an 1136 00:41:26,470 --> 00:41:24,880 opportunity to 1137 00:41:28,550 --> 00:41:26,480 eliminate that 1138 00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:28,560 that concern and also gives us an 1139 00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:30,640 ability to clean out the to eliminate 1140 00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:32,800 the concerns by creating 1141 00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:35,520 screens or or filters and then of course 1142 00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:37,760 those get plugged up so these beds are 1143 00:41:41,349 --> 00:41:39,440 unique in that one of the capabilities 1144 00:41:43,589 --> 00:41:41,359 they have is the ability to clean the 1145 00:41:45,990 --> 00:41:43,599 the filters if you have to so these beds 1146 00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:46,000 are very important to us also during the 1147 00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:47,440 docked we're gonna take advantage of 1148 00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:48,880 spacex during the dock period we're 1149 00:41:51,430 --> 00:41:50,240 going to we're going to change out these 1150 00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:51,440 two beds 1151 00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:53,440 into one of the two carbon dioxide 1152 00:41:56,950 --> 00:41:54,880 removal systems 1153 00:41:59,670 --> 00:41:56,960 that are on the on iss and then we 1154 00:42:01,829 --> 00:41:59,680 remove the return those two beds home 1155 00:42:04,150 --> 00:42:01,839 we're doing that so we can turn those 1156 00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:04,160 three beds into fours and fly them later 1157 00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:04,880 so 1158 00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:06,400 those are unique of course the grapple 1159 00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:08,319 bars are are unique they're one of a 1160 00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:10,240 kind as well 1161 00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:11,440 so those are ones that come to mind off 1162 00:42:18,390 --> 00:42:16,950 matt welch from the social media group 1163 00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:18,400 uh i was wondering when if you could 1164 00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:20,400 comment on uh future plans for the 1165 00:42:25,589 --> 00:42:23,200 falcon 9 rocket after either your 1166 00:42:28,710 --> 00:42:25,599 contract with nasa is up um is it just 1167 00:42:29,910 --> 00:42:28,720 for fairing uh dragon missions or uh 1168 00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:29,920 um 1169 00:42:34,069 --> 00:42:32,560 beyond satellites and things like that 1170 00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:34,079 there's no question that falcon 9 is 1171 00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:36,480 designed to carry both dragon as well as 1172 00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:38,960 satellites into orbit the next flight 1173 00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:40,720 after this one will be a satellite 1174 00:42:45,109 --> 00:42:42,480 delivery to orbit flight 1175 00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:45,119 of cassiopei and then as i said earlier 1176 00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:47,680 we'll do two gto missions one for ses 1177 00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:49,920 and then one for tycom 1178 00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:52,240 i meant like after you finish both the 1179 00:42:56,710 --> 00:42:54,720 the dragon and the satellite missions uh 1180 00:42:59,349 --> 00:42:56,720 possibly either is it powerful enough to 1181 00:43:01,510 --> 00:42:59,359 carry humans or any other 1182 00:43:02,950 --> 00:43:01,520 types of cargo beyond i guess your 1183 00:43:05,510 --> 00:43:02,960 current contracts 1184 00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:05,520 the falcon 9 is the the launch vehicle 1185 00:43:10,829 --> 00:43:08,079 that will carry our crew dragon 1186 00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:10,839 to station and other destinations 1187 00:43:16,630 --> 00:43:14,000 yes okay over here hi there uh cameron 1188 00:43:18,309 --> 00:43:16,640 cory social media um as gwen had said 1189 00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:18,319 this is the last flight of the uh the 1190 00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:21,440 falcon 10 flying the merlin 1c engines 1191 00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:24,400 um they are in a grid fashion at the 1192 00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:27,119 moment okay now with the falcon 1-1 1193 00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:29,520 they're going to a circular pattern with 1194 00:43:36,069 --> 00:43:31,200 one in the middle is there any sort of 1195 00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:37,750 i'm sure there's a benefit or we 1196 00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:45,270 i don't know i don't know the specifics 1197 00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:47,680 however uh just makes some engineering 1198 00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:50,400 sense that uh to punch the load from the 1199 00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:52,480 engines into the skin it's better to be 1200 00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:55,760 along the the circumference of the skin 1201 00:44:00,790 --> 00:43:58,160 so there's only one engine that isn't 1202 00:44:02,470 --> 00:44:00,800 close closely uh directed at the at the 1203 00:44:05,349 --> 00:44:02,480 skin which basically carries the load 1204 00:44:09,270 --> 00:44:07,270 hi ken kramer for universe today for 1205 00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:09,280 gwen uh two questions uh go back to 1206 00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:10,800 vandenberg for a minute can you tell us 1207 00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:12,720 about uh the status progress of the 1208 00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:14,640 falcon 9 heavy what would be the first 1209 00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:18,480 payload and do you envision any any uh 1210 00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:20,319 involvement with this proposed dennis 1211 00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:23,280 tito mission to mars thanks 1212 00:44:28,470 --> 00:44:26,400 okay so vandenberg is being built to 1213 00:44:31,109 --> 00:44:28,480 accommodate the falcon 9 single core as 1214 00:44:32,710 --> 00:44:31,119 well as the falcon heavy um all at the 1215 00:44:35,109 --> 00:44:32,720 same time i don't want to say that there 1216 00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:35,119 aren't things to do at vandenberg after 1217 00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:37,200 we fly this first single core falcon 9 1218 00:44:39,589 --> 00:44:38,560 there there's probably some additional 1219 00:44:41,030 --> 00:44:39,599 work to do 1220 00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:41,040 to accommodate the heavy i don't know 1221 00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:42,800 the specific details of it but it was 1222 00:44:48,069 --> 00:44:43,760 designed from the beginning to 1223 00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:49,990 the heavy flight i'm not talking yet 1224 00:44:53,270 --> 00:44:51,760 about the payload uh what we're going to 1225 00:44:54,950 --> 00:44:53,280 plan to do there but that vehicle should 1226 00:44:56,710 --> 00:44:54,960 be built late this year and we'll lift 1227 00:44:58,550 --> 00:44:56,720 off as quickly as we can 1228 00:45:01,430 --> 00:44:58,560 from vandenberg with the heavy and then 1229 00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:01,440 as far as the the dennis tito flight i 1230 00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:04,960 think his plan is very ambitious 1231 00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:06,480 we 1232 00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:08,319 have been rumored to be in partnership 1233 00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:10,240 with him which we're not 1234 00:45:14,309 --> 00:45:12,720 but we are a large service provider and 1235 00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:14,319 if he can 1236 00:45:22,630 --> 00:45:18,480 execute this mission i'd be happy to 1237 00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:24,790 for ms shotwell this is jim howard from 1238 00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:26,880 social media uh just quick questions 1239 00:45:30,870 --> 00:45:28,640 about the dragon capsule are they 1240 00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:30,880 reusable or ever going to be reused and 1241 00:45:34,710 --> 00:45:32,720 do you have any customers for it other 1242 00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:34,720 than nasa 1243 00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:37,119 we have by the way the dragon capsule is 1244 00:45:40,870 --> 00:45:38,240 absolutely 1245 00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:40,880 reusable it was designed to be reusable 1246 00:45:46,150 --> 00:45:43,760 we have turned dragon on after she's 1247 00:45:47,829 --> 00:45:46,160 come home and she does operate exactly 1248 00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:47,839 as planned 1249 00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:51,520 so so we know we can reuse it we 1250 00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:53,440 we will find customers for those 1251 00:45:59,510 --> 00:45:56,160 dragging capsules 1252 00:46:02,790 --> 00:45:59,520 potentially even have nasa consider 1253 00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:02,800 leveraging refurbished capsules but 1254 00:46:08,069 --> 00:46:04,400 we do have a lot of interest in the 1255 00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:11,270 dave dickinson with astroguys.com norad 1256 00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:13,520 in satellite trackers generally track 1257 00:46:19,510 --> 00:46:16,480 four payloads with the uh with each 1258 00:46:20,550 --> 00:46:19,520 launch i wondered what else besides the 1259 00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:20,560 booster 1260 00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:28,550 solar panel covers or the fairings or oh 1261 00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:30,480 i see okay so you're asking what are the 1262 00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:33,760 components of falcon 9 and dragon norad 1263 00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:35,760 will catalog usually four objects that 1264 00:46:39,990 --> 00:46:37,440 are up there and i've had questions 1265 00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:40,000 before what are those other two objects 1266 00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:40,960 are they 1267 00:46:46,390 --> 00:46:42,960 probably the the pharynx the solar array 1268 00:46:49,750 --> 00:46:47,670 all right we'll take our last question 1269 00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:49,760 from irene 1270 00:46:52,710 --> 00:46:50,800 um 1271 00:46:55,030 --> 00:46:52,720 i hope this isn't a nasa anti-social 1272 00:46:57,670 --> 00:46:55,040 question but in light of the um 1273 00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:57,680 the engine issues uh your company was 1274 00:47:02,390 --> 00:46:59,760 pretty sensitive about it and i was 1275 00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:02,400 wondering if there was any business 1276 00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:05,200 implications uh any customers 1277 00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:06,880 that were kind of on the hook that 1278 00:47:12,550 --> 00:47:08,720 decided to wait and see a few more 1279 00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:12,560 flights and then just in general 1280 00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:14,480 this is just the beginning of a very 1281 00:47:19,270 --> 00:47:17,040 large manifest for spacex a lot of 1282 00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:19,280 different kinds of customers 1283 00:47:23,349 --> 00:47:21,520 how important aside from the mission of 1284 00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:23,359 delivering to the station 1285 00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:25,280 how do you how do you all look at this 1286 00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:29,040 as far as the overall company's future 1287 00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:31,440 how do i look at the national mission 1288 00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:33,599 this well each each flight that comes 1289 00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:34,400 you know 1290 00:47:38,950 --> 00:47:37,040 got you got two down next one next one 1291 00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:38,960 and and i guess i'm asking just because 1292 00:47:44,470 --> 00:47:40,800 there was kind of a 1293 00:47:46,150 --> 00:47:44,480 a media backlash a bit from spacex for 1294 00:47:48,790 --> 00:47:46,160 those of us when we were reporting on 1295 00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:48,800 the engine issue 1296 00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:50,800 uh i'm sorry i don't understand that the 1297 00:47:55,270 --> 00:47:53,040 backlash piece 1298 00:47:57,270 --> 00:47:55,280 the company was sensitive about it 1299 00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:57,280 well i think the majority of our 1300 00:48:00,790 --> 00:47:59,520 sensitivity is due to this whole state 1301 00:48:02,549 --> 00:48:00,800 department 1302 00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:02,559 regime that 1303 00:48:08,710 --> 00:48:04,480 failures and 1304 00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:08,720 how you describe the process to get 1305 00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:12,160 through that is an extremely protected 1306 00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:13,680 um 1307 00:48:16,630 --> 00:48:15,119 pieces of information i mean that's 1308 00:48:19,270 --> 00:48:16,640 really what 1309 00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:19,280 that's what prompted the current itar 1310 00:48:24,309 --> 00:48:22,000 laws was 1311 00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:24,319 a commercial satellite company 1312 00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:26,240 in china helping 1313 00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:27,760 them 1314 00:48:31,349 --> 00:48:29,440 just by asking questions how to get 1315 00:48:33,430 --> 00:48:31,359 through a launch failure so we're just 1316 00:48:35,430 --> 00:48:33,440 ultra sensitive about that i don't look 1317 00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:35,440 good in horizontal stripes 1318 00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:37,119 i certainly don't want to go to jail i'd 1319 00:48:40,950 --> 00:48:38,800 like to see my kids go to college and 1320 00:48:42,630 --> 00:48:40,960 graduate so um we're just we're just 1321 00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:42,640 really careful about that probably too 1322 00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:44,400 careful and we'll find that out when we 1323 00:48:48,309 --> 00:48:46,160 get this report that we sent the state 1324 00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:48,319 department to said what can we say this 1325 00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:49,760 stuff in public 1326 00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:51,760 um 1327 00:48:55,030 --> 00:48:53,359 did that get the second part of your 1328 00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:55,040 question yeah i guess i guess just as 1329 00:49:00,549 --> 00:48:57,119 far as the um if there was any business 1330 00:49:02,230 --> 00:49:00,559 implications from that and just as a 1331 00:49:03,829 --> 00:49:02,240 how one of these missions sort of sets 1332 00:49:07,030 --> 00:49:03,839 the stage for everything else that's 1333 00:49:10,309 --> 00:49:07,040 coming down the road for spacex so uh 1334 00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:10,319 we lost no customers uh as a matter of 1335 00:49:15,109 --> 00:49:12,400 fact i have to tell you that i think the 1336 00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:15,119 industry and the public was dramatically 1337 00:49:19,990 --> 00:49:18,160 impressed by the fact that we had an 1338 00:49:22,150 --> 00:49:20,000 engine issue 1339 00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:22,160 engine shut down and still made mission 1340 00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:24,720 um so it's it's an impressive thing 1341 00:49:28,710 --> 00:49:26,400 again you know you don't want it to 1342 00:49:30,069 --> 00:49:28,720 happen but the fact that the vehicle did 1343 00:49:31,270 --> 00:49:30,079 exactly what it was supposed to do was 1344 00:49:32,710 --> 00:49:31,280 impressive we've heard from the 1345 00:49:35,190 --> 00:49:32,720 insurance community 1346 00:49:36,790 --> 00:49:35,200 they were impressed um 1347 00:49:38,470 --> 00:49:36,800 our other customers have been very 1348 00:49:41,270 --> 00:49:38,480 impressed as well so 1349 00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:41,280 no no one's canceled 1350 00:49:45,109 --> 00:49:42,880 i don't believe there was a contract 1351 00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:45,119 that we had kind of in limbo that didn't 1352 00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:47,920 get signed in that time frame 1353 00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:49,920 just as a factoid every commercial 1354 00:49:55,589 --> 00:49:52,960 launch that was competed last year 1355 00:50:00,390 --> 00:49:55,599 in the falcon 9 class spacex 1. 1356 00:50:04,309 --> 00:50:01,990 and with that i think we'll wrap it up 1357 00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:04,319 thank you gwen 1358 00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:05,680 everything remains on track for the 1359 00:50:09,990 --> 00:50:07,839 launch tomorrow morning at 10 10 a.m 1360 00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:10,000 eastern standard time of the falcon 9 1361 00:50:14,069 --> 00:50:11,680 and dragon capsule 1362 00:50:15,270 --> 00:50:14,079 you can follow activities on social 1363 00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:15,280 media 1364 00:50:21,750 --> 00:50:18,319 on twitter using at nasa and at spacex 1365 00:50:23,190 --> 00:50:21,760 and the hashtags iss and dragon and 1366 00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:23,200 we'll begin our live launch coverage 1367 00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:25,440 tomorrow at 8 30 a.m 1368 00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:27,440 right here on nasa television and